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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    He'd gain more players with relevant raid drops than he'd lose too pixel hugger's leaving. Not going to be surprised when nothing is done because Dino cba. O well it would of been nice to have an attraction for some growth. We don't need more players though, what we need is for you people to have more things in your banks.
    Frank, I don't know what your problem is with people having bank or not wanting their hard worked for items taken from their banks. If you think this sever will prosper from removing so much from everyon's bank then make it happen and see the destruction caused to the server. I will 100% quit and the server will be down to 20 players max.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darklord1292 View Post
    Frank, I don't know what your problem is with people having bank or not wanting their hard worked for items taken from their banks. If you think this sever will prosper from removing so much from everyon's bank then make it happen and see the destruction caused to the server. I will 100% quit and the server will be down to 20 players max.
    Aren't you a staker?



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    Almost 780k xp doesnt scream staker to me but he actually does play quite a bit lately from what I see. Maybe the times he is on doesnt coincide with the times you play

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Aren't you a staker?



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    Quote Originally Posted by no1sangel View Post
    Almost 780k xp doesnt scream staker to me but he actually does play quite a bit lately from what I see. Maybe the times he is on doesnt coincide with the times you play
    No I checked, he's been on my radar since he did some creepy shit ingame. (you don't wanna know)

    He's willing to lose everything in one stake but if raid items are reset he's quitting.. Coincidence, he won a twisted bow yesterday.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    No I checked, he's been on my radar since he did some creepy shit ingame. (you don't wanna know)

    He's willing to lose everything in one stake but if raid items are reset he's quitting.. Coincidence, he won a twisted bow yesterday.
    There is a huge difference in what someone is 'willing to lose' as opposed to what someone has no choice of losing or to an extent what its replaced with. I dont get the staker mentality in part because I am not a staker, I even say quite often never love a staker because they always lose eventually and leave . As you mentioned in another post pvmers and skillers are the constants in this game, while pkers are more apt to move on. I think stakers are in that realm as well. I hate to see anyone leave but perhaps its just the way different personalities are wired and nothing can change that base temperment I dunno.

    Creepy shit ingame, ya I really dont but as long as its adults and with in the stated rules and not against the law, meh live n let live is my life motto.



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    Quote Originally Posted by no1sangel View Post
    There is a huge difference in what someone is 'willing to lose' as opposed to what someone has no choice of losing or to an extent what its replaced with. I dont get the staker mentality in part because I am not a staker, I even say quite often never love a staker because they always lose eventually and leave . As you mentioned in another post pvmers and skillers are the constants in this game, while pkers are more apt to move on. I think stakers are in that realm as well. I hate to see anyone leave but perhaps its just the way different personalities are wired and nothing can change that base temperment I dunno.

    Creepy shit ingame, ya I really dont but as long as its adults and with in the stated rules and not against the law, meh live n let live is my life motto.
    Creepy as in none of those things. I was replying differently to him yes because I happen to actually know his situation lol I'm not going to be like yes your fictitious point is just as valid as mine good fellow! No one's saying people haven't grinded, everyone can appreciate that.

    I don't value keeping those items over the relevancy of raids. We need more players. First and foremost. I see it as for growth or for keeping your banks, hence comments of greed.

    (Iron people can keep theirs in my happy little outlook)



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    I'm not saying losing a 1b tbow would hurt my bank at all... lol but that's not the point! There are plenty of others it would truly effect! @Lollipop

    and we need more players before any kind of "reset" or "wipe of raids items in game". period. @Frank



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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    I don't value keeping those items over the relevancy of raids. We need more players. First and foremost. I see it as for growth or for keeping your banks, hence comments of greed.

    *****I dont really see it as greed when ppl spent time or irl money to get the things that are in contention but I do respect your opinions and understand why you and others have them. I see growth, alot of it, the past few days in so many new names, possible alts but seems to be new ppl from questions and dialog. As far as numbers i dont know. Maybe try to make the raid items gained by raids different things, and let ppl keep their non raid gained items, or trade them for rare stuff that can only be gotten with the old raid items, and give it say a month. Can always take raid items away in a month if we dont see xyz growth maybe. I really am just trying to think of a happier medium. Obviously one side wants the opposite of the others or sees things happening differently if things dont get completely removed.

    As far as irons keeping stuff that wont work either I could just trade my raid items to my main and keep on keeping on. Would hate to strip my iron but i would even though it wouldnt emotionally be the gear I got my 200m mage on There are many more ppl that say they will quit, now will they i dont know, and maybe thats ok if way more other ppl leave and get replaced but alot of these ppl are true die hard BS players so I dont think its a good idea to not listen to their wishes.

    I wish Pali would make a poll or an announcement so we would not be in limbo, make a decision, because this unrest is like a festering wound and is making some ppl not play now *******

    (Iron people can keep theirs in my happy little outlook)
    Got a message is too short warning. Never got one of those before, guess its because my reply is within the quotes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Aren't you a staker?
    Yes I am a staker and I also play everything else in the server. Why does that make any difference? just because you don't stake, you think that means you think its good to remove all raid items from everyone?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darklord1292 View Post
    Yes I am a staker and I also play everything else in the server. Why does that make any difference? just because you don't stake, you think that means you think its good to remove all raid items from everyone?
    It makes a difference when your little reply about how removing your hard work would make you quit.. Bullshit, you won it all yesterday lol
    You don't want an item reset because you like being pixel rich. Nothing to do with invested effort, which is the same for most people using that excuse.

    It all boils down to greed.


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