1. Re-Working Normal Mode  - 06-28-2018 #1

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    This is a thread for things that need to be changed in Normal Mode. (Even if there is going to be a Reset, this needed to be done before hand.)

    This will be broken down by sections.

    Cash Flow

    - Cash drops are way too high, which cause too much inflation and prices fluctuate or items do not sell at all ingame, causing new users to quit after the first day.
    - To make things simple, cash for no Gold Member Per task should be no more than 100k if Slayer is under 50, 250k under 75, 500k under 90 and 1M under 99. x1.5 cash for Gold Members. (Making Rune Items worth picking up to sell in shop.)
    - Remove normal Coin Drops other than the Rare Drop Table from Drop Tables. (Rare Drop Table can use a buff.)

    Shop Price Changes

    - This will include all Shop Prices to be changed. This will work with the Cash Flow Nerf to keep everything Stable.

    Zaff's Magic Shop

    Item Old Price New Price
    Ancient Staff 73,600 120,000
    Saradomin Cape 20,000 100,000
    Guthix Cape 20,000 100,000
    Zamorak Cape 20,000 100,000

    Horvik's Melee Shop

    *Remove Dragon 2H, Dragon Spear, Granite Maul, Rune Boots, Dragon Boots, Dragon Med Helms, Dragon SQ Shield, Dragon Platelegs and Plateskirt. Also remove all Barrows sets.
    **Add Dragon Battleaxe Special Attack

    Item Old Price New Price
    Dragon Scimitar 60,000 120,000
    Dragon Dagger(p++) 22,400 60,000
    Dragon Battleaxe** 121,500 250,000
    Dragon Mace 30,100 120,000
    Helm of Neitiznot 31,500 80,000

    Lowe's Ranged Shop

    *Remove Dragon Arrows, Rubies, Diamonds, Dragonstone Bolts and Bolt Racks from shop.
    **Add these to shop.

    Item Old Price New Price
    Magic Shortbow 960 3,000
    Ava's Accumulator 10,000 50,000
    Sapphire Bolts(e)** 0 120
    Emerald Bolts(e)** 0 300
    Green Dragonhide Shield** 0 3,300
    Blue Dragonhide Shield** 0 4,500
    Red Dragonhide Shield** 0 6,600
    Black Dragonhide Shield** 0 17,000


    Wilderness

    - x2 Dragon Bones on the Weekend as an event to get Wildy Poppin.
    - Noted Dragon Hide for all NPC Slayer Shop Under Item Rewards for 1,000 Slayer Points or a super Rare Drop from doing Wilderness Slayer. (Use Hazelmere's scroll ID 786. Call it "Hide Noting Scroll".) *Untradable and will Note all Dragon Hide ingame.
    - Wilderness Agility Course for x3 Agility XP over Relleka based off no Gold Membership. Then Add GM Boost for GM.

    Barrows

    - Remove Barrows from Shops, no reason for players to instantly get all sets from a Gargoyle Task.
    - Runes & Bolts Reward Nerf, way too many for a chest reward, which kills the Runes from being Bought in shop. (No Money removed from the server.)

    Slayer

    - Add Keris to Boss Shop for 250 Points and add it's full special attack on Kalphites.
    - Add a Scroll for Noted Daggonoth Bones for Ironmen & Hardcore Only for off-task in boss shop for 500 Points. Use Crumpled scroll ID 608. Call it "Noted Dag Bone Scroll.

    Raids

    Items

    - Barrows Degrading
    - Add Full Dragonfire Shield Charging and Special Attack. (So many Rune-Server Threads with all IDs.)

    Feel Free to Post below for changes.
    Last edited by Alex; 06-28-2018 at 10:04 AM.





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    Wilderness

    1. D spear needs to be adjusted. Whether you adjust it to osrs or something. It is over powered when 1 person logs onto 5 different accounts all 1 iteming with d spear just to spec you.
    2. Less teleports to wilderness. If you kill someone in multi, they're gonna be back within 10 seconds its ridiculous.
    3. Multi logging is a huge problem while pking. It needs to be fixed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by I F34r No1 View Post
    Wilderness

    1. D spear needs to be adjusted. Whether you adjust it to osrs or something. It is over powered when 1 person logs onto 5 different accounts all 1 iteming with d spear just to spec you.
    2. Less teleports to wilderness. If you kill someone in multi, they're gonna be back within 10 seconds its ridiculous.
    3. Multi logging is a huge problem while pking. It needs to be fixed.
    All PK Teleport Tabs should be sold in BM Shop for like 250BM each.

    The only Teleports free through Wizard should only be Mage Bank and the 2 Green Dragon Teleports.





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    I agree, its ridiculous man.

    Also, IPs on alts. I made my first account 1 year ago, now I cant trade any new accounts >.>


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    Quote Originally Posted by I F34r No1 View Post
    I agree, its ridiculous man.

    Also, IPs on alts. I made my first account 1 year ago, now I cant trade any new accounts >.>
    Post a general Queries thread for us to fix that for you. It's like that so Hackers can't do anything lol.





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    I think the biggest problem is that Palidino still believes his target demographic should be pkers. Just take a look at the toplist of any voting site the majority of these servers are skilling/pvm servers. You have great PVM here, probably the best of any RSPS, so you should be trying to get players to join around your great PVM content rather than pking. You shouldn't just shunt out pkers altogether but by no means should they remain your priority when trying to gain players.

    Regular mode should have a full item reset (except for untradeables & pets. Rings dont count as untradeables), Combat levels reset, slayer skill reset. Other skills should remain untouched on players accounts.

    • Reduce coin drop amount on regular mode so it's the same as iron/hardmode. This is so that prices on items such as bonds which are used amongst all modes remain buyable for all game modes.
    • Reduce well cost to 7.5m to activate (this would be 4x less since regular mode is currently 4x more coins than ironman).
    • Reduce item trade guide prices by 4x
    • Make wild barrows slayer only again
    • Remove the barrows armor from the shops
    • Change sinister key rate for barrows item to 35%
    • Change Regular barrows to 75% chance for 1 item, 25% chance for 2 items, 5% chance for 3 items
    • Change regular loots from barrows from 5k runes/bolt racks at a time to 100-200 runes at a time
    • Reduce the amount of runes gained from Raids from 6k to 500-1.5k
    • Change DWH droprate for regular mode from 1/2500 to 1/750.
    • Change Sigil droprates for regular mode to 1/250 for Arcane/Spectral & 1/750 for elysian
    • Change Demonic Gorilla's to drop Light & Heavy ballista instead of the seperate parts. Light on a 1/300 rate and heavy on a 1/500 rate
    • Changed the shared drop system so that only 1 player per game mode gets any loot from the boss.
    • Remove all the regular drops & statuettes from revenents. The only items on their drop table should be the PVP items.
    • Change shark store price to 400 coins each.
    • Change dark crab store price to 900 coins each.
    • Remove Combat level setting
    • Change Regular mode combat exp to 125x
    • Make it so GE lists the lowest selling price rather than the average.
    • Add an item searching feature for player owned shops
    • Add a Seperate NPC for player owned shops (new players don't even realise POS exist)
    • Make item prices at pest control 3x less than they currently are. It takes too long to grind items at pest control, ts a horrible experience.
    • Put Void Set in vote shop for 40 tickets
    • Put Fire Cape in vote shop for 15 tickets
    • Remove Prayer Scrolls from the boss slayer shop
    • Remove PK Supply Crates
    • Change Mystery Boxes so the chance of a super good item is much lower (should be about 1/8)

    • Remove all of the PVM items from the Blood Money shop

      In a decent economy the PVMers are supposed to supply pkers with items. The problem with the blood money shop is it lets Pkers be self sufficient meaning PVMers have nobody to sell their items too. For example doing slayer for whips in the current game is pointless because nobody will ever buy them, pkers can just get them themselves through the blood money shop.

      Pkers main source of income should be coins through statuettes which are used to buy items off of the PVMers


    You also need to add things which make coins useful

    • Remove item imbuing from the vote shop and instead place it in another shop which requires imbuing via coins (5m coins)
    • Add trident/trident of swamp charging with runes
    • Add barrows degrading
    • Make Kraken whip degrade (1m coins repair cost)


    Also need measures to prevent the main game mode economy being fucked up by the other game modes.

    • Regular mode shouldn't be able to trade/stake with Ironman/HCIM/Hard Mode for the first 2 months (except bonds).
    • Regular mode shouldn't be able to pickup items dropped by Ironman/HCIM/Hard Mode for the first 2 months.
    • Regular mode shouldn't be able to pickup/attack other modes in the wilderness for the first 2 months.
    • Disable the Blood Money shop for the 1st 2 weeks after reset
    • Remove Blood Money from bonds (temporarirly)
    • Temporarily disable mystery box feature

    Last edited by blazed you; 06-28-2018 at 04:01 PM.


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    Nobody here has ever learned anything in the last 10 plus years of the game. Then they are all surprised that their suggestions and recommendations don't bring anyone.

    Same suggestions for the last 10 years haven't worked in fixing this game and they won't work now.

    Jessie is finally figuring it out after a decade so props to him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terror View Post
    Nobody here has ever learned anything in the last 10 plus years of the game. Then they are all surprised that their suggestions and recommendations don't bring anyone.

    Same suggestions for the last 10 years haven't worked in fixing this game and they won't work now.

    Jessie is finally figuring it out after a decade so props to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blazed you View Post
    I think the biggest problem is that Palidino still believes his target demographic is pkers. Just take a look at the toplist of any voting site the majority of these servers are skilling/pvm servers. You have great PVM here, probably the best of any RSPS so you should be trying to get players to join around your great PVM content rather than pking.
    Funny that you say that while they're already doing everything they can to avoid getting pkers in this server.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terror View Post
    Nobody here has ever learned anything in the last 10 plus years of the game. Then they are all surprised that their suggestions and recommendations don't bring anyone.

    Same suggestions for the last 10 years haven't worked in fixing this game and they won't work now.

    Jessie is finally figuring it out after a decade so props to him.
    More likely because people who have the good ideas will be ignored and after all they leave this server.
    Last edited by Banned 42; 06-28-2018 at 09:41 AM.


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    Remove all teles to kbd, corporeal beast and other bosses. This way you cant bring max gear without having to risk it.
    Add all skills.
    Give reason to pk
    Last edited by Rank One; 06-28-2018 at 09:51 AM.

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