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    Quote Originally Posted by kris View Post
    I've spent hoursssss and over 600 boss slayer tasks grinding out all my raid items on my main and iron. To just take that all away because people want raid items reset? That's bullshit, I'm sorry. . And others have done more then me as well
    "my raid items"

    You wouldn't lose your investment into boss slayer, points refunded and replacement items in boss shop.

    There's no point adding raids without this happening, besides.. are you saying you wouldn't enjoy a little relevant group content? Get that first tbow drop with your friends?

    So if something suitable was added as replacement you'd still be against the idea?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    "my raid items"

    You wouldn't lose your investment into boss slayer, points refunded and replacement items in boss shop.

    There's no point adding raids without this happening, besides.. are you saying you wouldn't enjoy a little relevant group content? Get that first tbow drop with your friends?

    So if something suitable was added as replacement you'd still be against the idea?
    What about all the people who didn't buy raid items and have them but didn't do hours of work to get them? What about the people who have bought multiple sets, how would it work as to how they get points back for all those items bought? What about the people who have 10+, 20+ sets of raids items would they get all their points back when they didn't earn them? This would just highly unbalance the eco. Plus you'd lose a lot of players because of how much time and effort they spent saving up for that 1 and only 1 tbow they ever bought with their game play. A lot to think about here. I say better to just release and not do any kind of reset



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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    "my raid items"

    You wouldn't lose your investment into boss slayer, points refunded and replacement items in boss shop.

    There's no point adding raids without this happening, besides.. are you saying you wouldn't enjoy a little relevant group content? Get that first tbow drop with your friends?

    So if something suitable was added as replacement you'd still be against the idea?
    Actually when you put it this way, I agree with you 100%. Can't think of better solution than "refunding" the points & adding replacements in the shop.
    The raid update is useless if there's tons of those items already. The update of having none & raids added could revive the server a lot.


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    Raid items should have never been released until raids was released. This would have been avoided that way.



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    Quote Originally Posted by London View Post
    Raid items should have never been released until raids was released. This would have been avoided that way.
    No shit Sherlock. The damage is done now, no point in stating the obvious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Argurzil View Post
    No shit Sherlock. The damage is done now, no point in stating the obvious.
    Needs to be said so further shit-storms like this do not occur in the future when half assing the server. Cock muncher.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Argurzil View Post
    No shit Sherlock. The damage is done now, no point in stating the obvious.
    Exactly, so lets just keep on going and not reset anything!



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    Quote Originally Posted by kris View Post
    Exactly, so lets just keep on going and not reset anything!
    Going to have to disagree with you. Everyone knew raids was coming and that this situation was going to arise.. so you grinded for it anyway.

    What do you do with all the items you have currently? More boss slayer? boring.

    Personally I'm going to do raids either way, I'd just like other people to raid with. No one's going to care about getting items that the markets already flooded with because there's been nothing to do other than boss slayer since forever.

    You'd be refunded boss points, by way for item exchange and OR tasks done with a suitable set of items found to replace the raid items in boss shop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Going to have to disagree with you. Everyone knew raids was coming and that this situation was going to arise.. so you grinded for it anyway.

    What do you do with all the items you have currently? More boss slayer? boring.

    Personally I'm going to do raids either way, I'd just like other people to raid with. No one's going to care about getting items that the markets already flooded with because there's been nothing to do other than boss slayer since forever.

    You'd be refunded boss points, by way for item exchange and OR tasks done with a suitable set of items found to replace the raid items in boss shop.
    Ok so for instance, someone with 5 T-bows, what exactly can he offer that guy in return for his 5 Twisted bows worth 1-1.5b each, If Dalton decides to take away this guys 5 Bows What exactly would he be happy with to replace these item's because if it isn't sufficient then he's likely to get pissed off and just leave. Pretty sure many of people will feel the same way. A lot of people have spent their banks on all raid items or spent a lot of time getting them. What would they be left with to compensate. A Chance box? Not going to work. Refunded points? what exactly can he offer in the new boss shop which people will be happy to replace their raid items?

    Personally I'm almost 50/50 on the matter because I can see your point about the situation with raid item's already in rotation but on the other hand he's going to risk losing players which he can't really afford to. The only real way to combat the issue is to have a influx of new players to stretch out the amount of raid items already in the game. As of late there has been more and more newer people joining and maybe with a flawless raids release it'll bring more.

    Personally I've got a fair amount of my bank in raid items I definitely won't be happy if they're removed in any way & if they aren't removed I'll still be doing raids because it is enjoyable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Going to have to disagree with you. Everyone knew raids was coming and that this situation was going to arise.. so you grinded for it anyway.

    NOT YELLING JUST NEEDED A WAY TO SEPERATE MY RESPONSES FROM THE QUOTED PART. OHHHH SO YOU MEAN WE SHOULD HAVE JUST STOPPED PLAYING BECAUSE WE KNEW RAIDS WERE COMING FOR HOW MANY MONTHS? SAY OH IMMA DO NOTHING AND JUST WAIT? THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO BE PUNISHED BECAUSE WE WANTED TO PLAY THE GAME? THIS MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE FOR THE HARDCORE MODE BECAUSE ITS THE NEWEST AND IT TOUTS SEPARATE ECONOMY FOR THOSE WHO DIDNT LIKE THE NORMAL MODE ONE OR ITS ECONOMY. MAYBE...... I STILL THINK IT WOULD BE UNFAIR BUT POSSIBLY THE LEAST IMPACTIVE TO THE OVERALL PLAYER BASE.

    What do you do with all the items you have currently? More boss slayer? boring.

    ITS VALID YOUR BELIEFS BUT JUST AS VALID ARE OTHERS BELIEFS. I LOVE BOSSING, LOVE IT IN PART BECAUSE I LIKE SEEING THOSE BIG HITS, TRYING TO FINISH FASTER FOR *GASP* MORE BOSSING. AT FIRST I HAD TO HAVE HELP BUT WITH THE EARNING OF RAID ITEMS I KNOW CHALLENGE MYSELF WITH BOSSING SOLO ALMOST ALWAYS. TRYING DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS AND STYLES. DONT LIKE BOSSING WELL LEMME TELL YA THERE IS SKILLING, AND PKING, AND REG SLAYER TO APPEASE YOU AND OTHER PVM ASPECTS AS WELL, GROWING STEADILY WITH EVERY NEW UPDATE.

    Personally I'm going to do raids either way, I'd just like other people to raid with. No one's going to care about getting items that the markets already flooded with because there's been nothing to do other than boss slayer since forever.

    IF THIS WERE TRUELY THE CASE, IF THEY WONT RAID BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ITEMS, THEN PPL WOULDN'T BE DOING THEM NOW IN BETA OR WANTING THEM AND ASKING FOR THEM LIKE THEY HAVE FOR HOW MANY MONTHS NOW? AGAIN IF WE HAVE MORE AND MORE PPL JOIN THE FLOODED MARKET WILL BALANCE AND WE WILL KEEP THE PLAYER BASE WE HAVE NOW AND MORE WILL COME. ITS SIMPLE MATHEMATICS. I ONLY WANT RAIDS BECAUSE IT MAKES THE PLAYERS HAPPY THAT WANT RAIDS. THEY ARE NOT SOMETHING I WILL PARTICIPATE IN WILLINGLY BUT IF MY FRIENDS CAN CONVINCE ME MAYBE I WILL BUT LIKE CORP AND A FEW OTHER THINGS HERE I HATE I DO IT BECAUSE IT MAKES THEM HAPPY. I SURMISE THAT PPL WILL RAID WITH YOU AS WELL FRANK FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THEY ARE YOUR FRIENDS OR THEY THINK THEY CAN GAIN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OR BOTH

    You'd be refunded boss points, by way for item exchange and OR tasks done with a suitable set of items found to replace the raid items in boss shop.

    REFUND MY BOSS POINTS FOR STUFF I DONT WANT WHILE TAKING THINGS I DO AND STILL WANT TO KEEP? DOESNT SOUND FAIR OR REASONABLE. WHO DETERMINES SUITABLE? I COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT RARES OR COSMETICS ITS ALL ABOUT FUNCTIONALITY TO ME. I GOT 200M MAGIC WITH MY ANCESTRAL AND KODAI. I HAVE SPENT HOURS WEARING IT. ITS IRREPLACEABLE ASK ANYONE WHO HAS OFFERED ME A SHIT TON OF MONEY FOR IT. 600M FOR MY KODAI NTY I PASSED. BOTTOM LINE THERE IS NOTHING SUITABLE, EXCEPT NOT TAKING THEM AWAY.
    Perhaps a way to do this would to add a special tag or color or identifier to raid items that are earned doing raids. I assume part of raid items are the kudos and admiration surrounding getting them from raids and this would keep them prestigious. This could make them worth more as well. They would be a rare so to speak.


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